Remove TJ Brown from his position of authority

#73: Logical -

Your making a guess as to what the complaintants intentions was as to the reporting of the incident. How about my guess as to maybe just maybe this so called victim wanted to get back to having relations with officer Brown and Brown turned him down. This is possible as well. We will never know for sure because we havent heard from him. As for obtaining information, I had a guy speeding down my residential street and took out a portion of my fence. I was able to get the license plate number from the vehicle. I went to the DMV and asked who was listed as the registered owner. I was given the name. It's all public information and it's releasable to anyone. Same with drivers licenses.

#76: wake up! -

I read the report as well.  The initial report says one age as being reported and then in the supplemental report done by the detective the victim gives a different age. Or is it the officers reporting the incident given different ages. Who knows but I would say the officers are reporting the facts as they are given to them. Also the first report states that it was Officer Brown that initiated the contact. Then the supplemental report states it was Mr. Lucero that initiated the contact with Magallan. The two reports contradict each other on alot of the information that was reported by Mr. Magallan. Once again the reader is left with did the police officers writing the reports have the facts wrong or is it Mr. Magallan not remembering what he told the diferrent officers that had interviewed him. You are correct the report reflects Mr. Lucero was the one who used the dispatch locals check on Mr. Magallan. No where in either report does it state that Officer Brown "looked up" Mr. Magallans license plate.  The facts and statements of everyone including people that post good and bad on this should make sure they state the reported facts correctly. As to opinions, they are like assholes...everyone has one.

#77: Just for thought - Re:

If the officer had went to the dmv and requested the information that would be different. This officer used his resources that are provided to protect the public to track down and have sex with a child.

#80: - Re: Re:

How do you know this. Did you see him actually type the information into a police computer or are you one of the officers that did the investigation into this and you know from personal knowledge by finding the computer entry history of his or the dispatch computers browser histories. If you are one of the investigators into this please feel free to share your indepth and first hand knowledge of this incident. I'm sure everyone on here would love to be told the inside information so we can make a more informed decision as to sign our names on this petition.

There are varying levels of breaking laws and we have all done it, including Mr. Calder. Yes, he may have a DUI, but drinking and driving isn't targeted at one specific person. Mr. Brown on the other hand, specifically targeted and tracked down a teenager using the the very equipment that is issued to him under the oath to protect and serve. Instead Mr. Brown used that issued equipment to qualify himself to be on an episode of "to catch a predator". That's what he is and that is what this petition is about, stopping this act from happening again. It has NOTHING to do with Calders' or any of the other Officer's past. The DA did not pursue charges, that is true, but if we continue to allow Mr. Brown the oppurtunity to prey on our youth, I promise at some point the DA will not have a choice. This WILL happen again!!! Good luck to you Mr. Brown, I hope you get what you got coming, which is some time in a small cell with something to cover the very thing that you have violated........your ass!!!!!

#83: Logical -

But it would matter why he reported it, now wouldn't it? If he was seeking money from a lawsuit maybe? He himself said he consented. Officicer Brown should have not slept with him, this is completely true and I'm in no way justifying his actions. I see both sides to this as there a lot of valid points coming from both. However, there are holes and inconsistencies in the report. Read it. I urge everyone to read it and look through the comments as well before signing.

And besides, its not like Officer Brown is the only one with BPD with questionable ethics. How do you feel about an officer who beats his wife? Is his sin less than? Can he make a good judgment call when he gets a DV call? Will he side with the victim or identify with the attacker because he understands that sometimes "some women just deserve it" or "I didn't mean it" or whatever other sick excuse people come up with. Where's the petition to remove him from power or as community are we ok with this?

Was it true that Magallan lied about his age? That does put a different perspective on things. I think in that case calling Brown a pedophile is way out of line and completely unfair.

The truth is somewhere in between all this heated debating and we deserve to know more about this issue before we sign our names. I'd hate for my wife and myself to condem a potentially innocent person without knowing all the facts and just on peoples speculation of his intentions. Like I said, both sides are right about things and wrong about others. And caps lock doesn't help make a point. Just saying.

#83: Logical -

You have been found not logical and therefore have been voted off the island.... oop's I ment petition. I can only say the judicial system has spoken and no crime was comitted and such we move on with our lives.

#84: - LOGICAL'S PAL

Nowhere does it say Officer Brown is preying upon the youth of this community. Its been reported that they met through a mutual friend.

#87: - Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

Regardless of how they met, 16 years of age is our youth!!!!  Get a grip.  a 28 year old, a 24 year old...........and a 16 year old, no way, no how will that ever be right!!!

#88: - Re: Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

I'm not saying its right but the state of New Mexico says a 16 yr old has the sound mind to choose and it's legal. I realize that the idea of sex is different for someone that age. I believe the law needs to change. The point I was trying to make is that Officer Brown didn't seek him out for sex. They met, they obviously had mutual attraction and then they acted on that. That doesn not make one a predator and one a victim. It makes them both people with very poor judgment.

#88: - Re: Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

And our youth bring guns into schools and kill there fellow students...they are just as responsible as the rest of society. We sentence 16 and even younger to prisons so don't be all high and mighty about the poor youths of our society. They are capable of joining gangs and killing without mercy just as adults are. Now if you want to speak of 12 year olds and that age group you do have a strong foundation to stand on but when you get to 15, 16 and up they already no what is right and what is wrong so get off that poor 16 year old crap. You parents need to sit down with your 16 year olds and find out just what they know of life and how thier thought patterns work.  I did and I was shocked to find my 16 year old was indeed very smart about the world and new a lot of things I didn't even think she knew or could understand.

#91: Just my two cents - Re: Re: Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

Good point.

#91: Just my two cents - Re: Re: Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

So, you have a 16 year old daughter??  From what I am reading in your response, it would be ok for Mr. Brown to have sexual relations with your daughter after being introduced by a "friend" (his computer). To each their own I guess.

#93: - Re: Re: Re: Re: LOGICAL'S PAL

I believe you missed the point of my comment. If I have been reading this petition correctly it was Mr. Lucero that did the introduction. Are you saying the computer is Mr. Lucero ???  I trust my daughter to make the right choices in life with her up bringing and the values taught to her by her family and church.

#94: -

That is a very real possibility. Freedom of speach only go's so far. But through actions that you create and it brings physical harm or monetary harm to another is grounds for a lawsuit. Maybe thats why Josh is making his snide comments as guest now instead of using his real name. Hostile work environment is exactly what is going on at the BPD and has been for I bet awhile now.

Fun Facts everyone should know.
I am a family member of a BPD officer and I can't count how many times I have sat down and spoken to him about the corruption that goes on at Bloomfield Police Department. I will remain anonymous due to the fact that Chief Kovacs, Lt. Scott and all their "minions" love to retaliate against anyone who speaks out against them, for this Administration believe they are all powerful and should not be questioned. My family member, himself, has told me countless amounts of time how he has heard comments about how they do not and did not want a "fagot" for a Sgt. and even thought Officer Brown tested high during his assessment for the Sgt. position the admin and their followers did not want to promote Officer Brown because he was openly gay. My family member has told me about several time he has heard rude and crude comments about Sgt. Brown due to his lifestyle. This petition sickens me because this has nothing to do with the publics trust, it has to do with a way to fire Sgt. Brown. They are just using the public to do so. Its also a fact that after Sgt. Brown was put on leave for FPD's investigation and cleared BPD started their own investigation because they were hoping he would not have been cleared. After the two investigations failed and they had nothing more to try and terminate Sgt. Brown wit they turned to this. I'd also like to add that my family member informed me Officer Calder and Officer Brown tested for Sgt. at the same time and when Sgt. Brown was promoted Officer Calder was very upset and began filing complaints against Sgt. Brown in hopes that if they demoted Sgt. Brown he would be next in line for the promotion. The one thing about police officer in every city is they like conflict. It makes their day to find a bad guy somewhere somehow and if they can't find one on the streets they turn on their own. I know that most of the officer and all of their Administrations do not like officers they cannot control or are not like them i.e. straight, white males. This attack on Sgt. Brown is not just against him its against other members of the police dpt. as well. I have been told of the things they have done to the only female they have working there. She also was accused of things by the Adminatration there in hopes to get rid of her and she has had to fight back to keep her job. It's sad how this has turned out. People against one man who was cleared from these accusations not only once but twice and is still being judged. Believe when I tell you all this, those who have signed this petition, you are being used. You've been told it's because of the concerns for the public but what's really going on is you are puppets doing the bidding for someone who is just upset he was passed up for a promotion and for an Administration office who are liars, haters and who are arrogant. It was brought to my attention that Chief Kovacs made a comment recently to one of the petitioners who signed that this might be what they finally need to get rid of Officer Brown so you tell me what the real facts are. I also want to comment on how certain people are using scripture to drive their point home. Throwing Gods name out there to sound like you are doing the right thing doesn't make it right. I do not condone Officer's Brown lifestyle choice nor am I saying he is completely innocent but did God not say to love one another (hate the sin not the sinner). Don't twist the word of God to suit your needs. I also believe God's word states that vengeance is his not ours. Most of you posting make is sound like Officer Brown was lurking across the street preying on children. Waiting to attack like a predator but what it sounds like to me was he was lied to and acted on what Officer Brown thought was to be true. I think instead of judging this one guy on his actions we should be looking into the entire police department and the actions of the administration office and why the City Council has not stepped up.

#97: Family Member of BPD -

Well said and thank you for coming forward with this

#97: Family Member of BPD -

I agree with you completely on this and I 'am so glad you took the time to write this. To have an inside perspective of the department is what was needed in this situation. The City Counsel needs to step in at this point and investigate that department for they will be just as guilty and held civilly liable in any court action that could come from this incident. Thank you for coming forward. I hope the admin never finds out who your spouse is to retaliate against him for shinning the light of truth upon them.

#99: Z. Yazzie - Re:

Amen!