Hands Off Hartlebury Common

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Steve McCarron

#451 Names

2011-07-02 00:33

Could people leaving posts leave their names, your comment has much more credibilty if you do so, rather than being a "Guest"
Thanks

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carol

#454 Re: Re: Re: Climate Change and Atmospheric Pollution

2011-07-02 01:10

#450: Steve McCarron - Re: Re: Climate Change and Atmospheric Pollution

Thanks very much i will stop nagging them and try to enjoy my walk if i can for those horrible chain saws

P.S What about the wood are we allowed to take it home for our log burners ,officially it does'nt belong to the council does it ?

Steve McCarron

#455 Re: Re: Names

2011-07-02 01:15

#453: Mr Michael Hunt - Re: Names

Taking the fence down was a careful, co-ordinated action in a calm way, we will be calm in court, we are calm when we talk to WCC, their agents, employees, and thier contractors. We were calm on two occasions when the police interviewed us on site, called by WCC. 1/Taking fence down, 2/ stopping spraying of herbicide.

 

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Have you read the petiton page with reference to WCC knowing

carol

#456 Re: Re: Re: Names

2011-07-02 01:18

#455: Steve McCarron - Re: Re: Names

who was spraying herbicide,where abouts on the common and what was it ?

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carol

#459 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Climate Change and Atmospheric Pollution

2011-07-02 01:36

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How can it be there wood if nobody own's the common I don't have a log burner but there are lots of people that have and take some wood at the end of the day if all the wood is taken away i don't think the bloke will keep going and cutting trees down for the fun of it NO profit NO more trees chopped down.Sorry i didn't word my last post very well

Steve McCarron

#460 Re: Re: Re: Re: Climate Change and Atmospheric Pollution

2011-07-02 01:40

#454: carol - Re: Re: Re: Climate Change and Atmospheric Pollution

Whilst I understand our position regarding the misaproriation of the common by the council and our rights relevant to this. I cannot comment on issues beyond my knowlege and expertise at this time.

carol

#461 Re: Re: Re: Re: Names

2011-07-02 01:43

#456: carol - Re: Re: Re: Names

can you please reply to this post steve as i think using the common daily every one has the right to know what is being sprayed on the common

Steve McCarron

#462 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Names

2011-07-02 01:44

#461: carol - Re: Re: Re: Re: Names

I should ask WCC. They were spraying bracken at the time


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#463 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Names

2011-07-02 01:50

#462: Steve McCarron - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Names

so it wasn't you spraying sorry could this stuff be harmful to dogs any idea what it is a couple of dogs have been ill recently i hope i don't see them spraying cos i will ask lots of questions I may only be little but i have a very loud voice!

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Steve McCarron

#466 More information

2011-07-02 12:23

Worcestershire Commons Association
7 Meadow Cottages, Moors Avenue, Hartlebury DY11 7YL


Andy Maginnis
Countryside Services Manager
Worcestershire County Council
Spetchley Road
Worcester WR5 2NP 30 June 2011

Dear Mr Maginnis

HARTLEBURY COMMON

As you are aware, we have contested and informed you that Worcestershire County Council does not have legal ownership, if there is such a thing, over Hartlebury Common.

We have informed Tom Pollock, your colleague, as to the illegality of the work that is being carried out at Hartlebury Common.

I must point out to you the CROW Act 2000 extends a legally binding protection to Hartlebury Common. Many of your actions are in direct contravention to the terms within this Act. One example of this is the illegal enclosure of Hartlebury Common with fencing. This was done at rate payer’s expense in an illegal enterprise which had no validity as you do not have title of Hartlebury Common. Therefore this is a misappropriation of public funds.

Pursuant to our establishing WCC’s claimed ownership is invalid, yourself and your agents, operatives and any associated members of the County Council will be liable for prosecution for aiding and abetting or carrying out acts of criminal damage to the Common. Once the Common’s status is established we will be within our rights to bring about a prosecution for the criminal damage which has been carried out, is being carried out and potentially carried out before the hearing.

Therefore, we, the Worcestershire Commons Association, must point out relevant parties will be liable for prosecution.

The council claims that a full and all encompassing public enquiry took place regarding the programme of works. We enclose copies of a sample of our ongoing petition showing that the public refute this claim and regard the enquiry as fraudulent and misleading. We have numerous witnesses that will testify as such.

"We have sought public opinion on this scheme and have the signatures of at least 600 verifiable objectors.
Why is this not reflected by the Supposed full and extensive public enquiry and inspectors report?
The ratio of objection to approval is currently on average 400-1 against these proposals."

Our Association has managed to engage with over 600 members of the public in little over three weeks since the 27th of May . This is what would be considered due diligence on our part to engage with public opinion.

Continuing false assertions are subject to criminal offences relating to misrepresentation and fraud, as is assuming the rights of ownership to property which legally is not yours. This includes your assertions to Hartlebury Commons Group (Dr Joy Rooney) as shown on their website and displayed on the noticeboard at the Common that:

a/ A well attended public inquiry in 2009 found in favour of enclosing the common and grazing by cattle. (90 attendees, 40 voting, 26 in favour)
b/ Hartlebury Common is legally owned by Worcestershire County Council.

Therefore you should instruct your staff, their agents, and their contractors to stop work accordingly.

Yours sincerely

Vanessa Wright, Worcestershire Commons Association.
Steven McCarron, Worcestershire Commons Association.

Cc Stourport Police Station
Cc Tony Barnett, Chairman, Common Heritage 2001
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Steve McCarron

#472 Some more heathland madness

2011-07-02 14:01


Waste has also cropped up as a criticism of the massive lowland heath project in Dorset that’s been receiving millions in lottery and EU funding in recent years. First some interpretation of the lowland heath: its an artificial, shrubby landscape born out of our economic use of often poor sandy soils to give us a range of products and potential harvests. Woodland that once covered the area was cleared thousands of years ago and re-growth prevented by grazing with domestic animals. The removal of nutrients in the form of crops and livestock impoverished the soil and made it acidic so that gorse and heath moved in. As well as the use for grazing, the vegetation and turf were cut to provide fodder, bedding, fuel and thatch. Once that economic use declines or ceases, wild nature takes over, the heather and gorse gets leggy, and woodland regains its place. Thus a heath cannot exist in stasis without our influence.

Unsurprisingly, the area of open lowland heath has diminished over the last century, reflecting its reduced importance in our economic living, but since many of the heaths in Dorset are commons (they can’t be fenced) and are close to major urban centres, they have developed a purpose instead as spaces for outdoor recreation and enjoyment.

Others have found value in the bonanza these open spaces have afforded to the proliferation of wild species: thus sand lizards and smooth snakes if you’re a fan of reptiles; the Purbeck mason wasp, silver-studded blue butterfly and the ladybird spider if invertebrates are your thing; and woodlark, stonechat, Dartford Warbler and nightjar if you are birdist. Because of the presence of these species, many of the heaths have attracted the designation of SSSI. And because of the decline of lowland heath, targets were set for its restoration and for the re-creation of new lowland heath in the national Biodiversity Action Plan (BAP).

The BAP threatens the concept of wildness itself

Peter Marren, writing in his book on rare wildflowers reflected on the impact that a target driven action plan would have (7):
”There is a new concern, which is evidently widely felt though seldom expressed publicly: that the envisaged level of intervention in the BAP may in some cases come to threaten the concept of wildness itself.”

Peter could have been talking about the Dorset heathland project because the scale of killing off of wildness has been huge. Thus the Hardy’s Egdon Heath Project, driven by Natural England, cleared some 1,000 hectares of mixed young woodland and scrub from different heathland sites. Five grazing projects were set up to reintroduce livestock for conservation grazing as a control against scrub and tree reinvasion. In other areas heather was cut and 48 hectares of gorse coppiced, while 204 hectares of bracken were cleared. Some 100 hectares of pine plantation were also cleared to re-create heathland areas (8).

The RSPB are quite cold in describing how they reclaim their own Dorset heathland sites: pine and birch (and presumably gorse) are cleared using chainsaws; heather is mown using a tractor and forage harvester; and bracken is controlled by treating it with herbicide spray (9). They give their Dorset heathland project prime billing as a case study in their report from 2001 on large scale habitat restoration entitled Futurescapes. The RSPB loves the BAP, as is shown by this report. The Species and Habitat Action Plans in the UK BAP bring with them funding and provide a justification for the RSPB land management practices that more often than not are a farmification of the landscape. To them the BAP target of 6,000 hectares of recreation of heathland by 2005 was peanuts, and thus they are shooting for 32,000 ha by 2020 (10).

All good news if you are a conservation professional, but other eyes have been able to pick up on the flaws in the Dorset heathland project, especially the wasteful aspects of it. An appraisal of sustainability by the Forum for a Future notes that no provision had been made to make use of the tree, gorse and heather clearings, which could have found use in wood fuel systems in community heating schemes, rather than be burnt on site or just left. The language of their criticisms is measured, such as when they advocate a reduction in use of energy hungry heavy machinery, but even they must have been shocked by the use of helicopters to spray herbicide on the bracken, when with more humanscale techniques, it could have been cleared and composted from some areas. They also noted that the herbicide spray was killing off ecologically important fern species.

Perhaps their most damning criticism is that the Dorset heaths project appears to lack a shared, locally agreed long term vision and overall plan for multiple land use and resource protection, in spite of the fact that it has received Heritage Lottery funding and EU Life funding. They allude to the fact that the project has more to do with the aspirations of conservation professionals than it does to the local population, and indicate the tensions that have existed (11):
“It is proving difficult to achieve consensus with local residents and landowners in urban and some urban fringe areas about the best ways of managing the heathland, e.g. some people don’t want trees removed or fences put up, they don’t want to see any changes.”

Conservation professionals are not big on accepting criticism, and so their voice comes through in the appraisal report when it is suggested that the resistance to tree clearance on some sites is due to a vocal minority, or from people who have only recently moved to live near the heathland – this in spite of the fact that it is known that some local conservationists are content with the land as it is.

The contempt is further shown in a recent story in the Dorset Echo (12). The Parish councilors of Hurn and Christchurch cllrs have objected for a second time to a plan by Dorset Wildlife Trust to cut down 5,000 pine and birch trees on Sopley Common so that it can be restored to heathland. The Hurn councilors have accused the wildlife trust of having a "cavalier attitude" because they have not been prepared to discuss their objections. Alastair Cook, a press spokesman for the Wildlife Trust played the SSSI card, hiding behind the designation to claim that there was a legal obligation on the Wildlife Trust as owners of the common to cut down the trees. He went on to say:
"As for being cavalier, it may be that our legal obligations do not allow us to negotiate with the parish council."

Not much hope there for a locally agreed long -term ‘master plan’ or landscape vision for the project! What depresses me most about all this is the awful destruction. Surely it is too late to want to re-impose some notion of nature for the species that conservation professionals want to see when there is something quite unnatural in the clearing of often quite mature trees. It can’t be called nature conservation because it’s killing the wildness by chopping down the natural return of mostly native species. And this grooming of nature goes much further than just clearing trees. The Purbeck Mason Wasp requires exposures of clay and a ready supply of water, and also some Ecleris moth caterpillars which feed on the new shoots of bell heather and cross leaved heath. The heathland project has used a digger to create areas of bare clay and has groomed the nearby heather with controlled winter burning to encourage vigorous new growth. Is this nature grooming natural? Is it in any way wild?

I want to leave you with another example of nature grooming, this time from an RSPB press release about the habitat requirements of the black grouse. The black grouse is one of those examples of a species given particular attention in conservation circles so that it ends up being symbolic of the management prowess of conservation professionals and, yes, there is a Species Action Plan and targets for black grouse in the BAP (13). The news release reported on a study that made a link between falling black grouse numbers and the maturing of commercial forestry plantations as their canopy closed over the heather, blaeberry and other plants that provide food, shelter and cover for chicks (14). Black grouse do better in areas of birch and other native woodland and scrub, but Dr James Pearce Higgins, lead author of the study, points to a much wider range of habitat requirements for maximising numbers of the birds:
"We're not saying that extensive forest is necessarily a bad thing; but for black grouse to be successful demands a delicate balance to be maintained between several types of habitat. The ideal landscape for these birds contains a mix of heather moorland, rough grassland, wet flushes and open woodland or scrub.….. The challenge is to maintain the required mix of forest and moorland habitats within a commercially managed landscape”.

It’s a wonder that this bird ever existed in wild nature before we took to nature grooming and killing all the wildness.

Mark Fisher 23 April 2007

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carol

#475 Re: More information

2011-07-02 15:04